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JakeBrake
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Re: Explorative Testing
      08/26/07 08:36 AM

It appears we have definitions, which are as similar as they are in subtle ways different. Given the various definitions for testing terms I am not surprised. And of course the type of project and/or level of formality required and/or contractual requirements drive the concepts in this respect.

Cem

JakeBrake

  • At the start of the project, I know less about the product and its test-related issues than I will know at any time in the future.

I submit that it depends upon your exposure to both, 1) similar products or systems or applications, and 2) common challenges within a specific application domain.

  • So I cannot announce my testing strategy at the start (unless I want to be wrong).

In my experience, it is best to get a strategy out for informal and formal review as soon as possible. In my experiences a strategy has been contractually required and is required relatively early in the projects I refer to. Im a risk-taker (grin) and rely on teammates to point out erroneous thinking.

  • I cannot script my tests yet, even if there are detailed specifications, because there is too much to test and I don't yet know what is most important.

I believe a form of informal scripting can occur at this point, even if only notes/thoughts in an engineering notebook. I have used this method previously to script scenarios for review per my response just above. I am thinking that if one were familiar with the domain, then one would have an understanding of what is most important. Reviews and inspections would serve to adjust rankings/priorities as necessary. Additionally, if there is "too much to test" then the project manager and/or Program Office should be made aware as soon as possible.

  • Part of how I learn is to try to test the product, and see what its vulnerabilities are, see what concerns me about the environment, etc.

I refer to this as analysis and rely upon item 2) above. Should I not have "pre-knowledge" then I will test the waters as you have specified.

Given the above, I tend to think of exploratory testing as nothing more than analysis and design. I do not use the terms "analysis" and "design" to frame or drive a strategy. I use the terms to describe what I have done after the fact. I will often refer to this as the "exploratory phase."



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* Explorative Testing vijay_testing 08/10/07 09:01 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Joe Strazzere   08/11/07 03:41 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing rsherry   08/14/07 03:21 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Steve_Bartkowski   08/14/07 11:25 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Raj Majoka   08/21/07 04:32 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing jamesbach   08/23/07 09:38 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing saju1982   08/24/07 12:27 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing cemkaner   08/25/07 08:34 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   09/09/07 10:30 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   08/26/07 08:36 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing TargetTesting   08/24/07 02:38 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing rajeshy   08/22/07 02:55 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing PVB1979   08/22/07 03:04 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   08/22/07 06:27 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing cemkaner   08/22/07 11:04 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing PVB1979   08/22/07 11:33 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing PVB1979   08/22/07 11:37 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing J_Brody   09/12/07 09:13 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   09/17/07 05:10 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Peter Ruscoe   09/12/07 10:13 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing J_Brody   09/12/07 07:21 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing DSquared   09/13/07 05:56 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   09/12/07 11:59 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing AOQA   09/13/07 05:39 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   09/13/07 06:10 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing AOQA   09/13/07 06:54 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing J_Brody   09/13/07 07:29 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing AOQA   09/13/07 07:34 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   09/13/07 08:04 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing blueinatlModerator   09/12/07 11:20 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing DSquared   08/28/07 04:35 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Walen   08/28/07 05:09 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing jamesbach   08/29/07 10:46 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   08/28/07 05:56 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing jamesbach   08/29/07 10:59 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   08/30/07 07:14 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   08/30/07 06:47 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   08/30/07 05:23 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing jamesbach   08/30/07 06:59 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   09/02/07 06:43 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing DSquared   09/03/07 07:47 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing yagsy   09/08/07 02:29 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing TestingMentor   10/22/07 09:07 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   10/24/07 07:49 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   11/10/07 05:55 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing yagsy   09/08/07 02:30 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   09/09/07 07:53 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing DSquared   08/31/07 04:45 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   08/31/07 06:21 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Corey_G   08/31/07 07:40 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Steve_Bartkowski   08/31/07 08:12 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Jeff Nyman   08/31/07 11:35 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   08/31/07 11:47 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing thekid   09/01/07 11:20 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing DSquared   09/02/07 01:53 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Shane_MacLaughlin   09/02/07 05:35 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing supratim   08/31/07 11:21 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing JakeBrake   08/31/07 03:06 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   08/31/07 04:13 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing martinh   08/30/07 07:53 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing Steve_Bartkowski   08/30/07 12:58 PM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing saju1982   08/23/07 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing bru   08/23/07 02:33 AM
. * * Re: Explorative Testing saju1982   08/23/07 03:14 AM

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