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ttguy
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Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs
      #601018 - 11/11/09 10:19 PM

So I am trying to run WinRunner on Windows 7.

And I have WinRunner installed and my addins for my "legacy" apps.

WinRunner executes and performs GUI tasks.

However, certain tsl commands cause Windows 7 to display a blue screen of death (very briefly) and then restart. The BSD is too quick to read properly but it is something about shutting down to prevent damage.

I have read this thread on "Text recognition on Windows Vista with WinRunner 9"


and looked at the KM195541 HP KB article about it.

And I think the issue is similar to the one described in the KM195541 article. Because it is the _get_text functions that cause the issue. Things like obj_get_text and win_get_text cause it. ( Interestingly edit_get_text does not).

Unfortunately I still get the issue when data execution prevention is turned off (wmic OS Get DataExecutionPrevention_SupportPolicy reports zero = AlwaysOff DEP is not enabled for any processes)

I am now trying to figure out how much of the functionality of my scripts I can work around the issue by avoiding calls to obj_get_text and win_get_text - as this is the only solution offered by the KM195541 article.

Any gurus with any brilliant ideas about how to stop the BSD ?
--
PS Yes I know - WinRunner is not supported any more.

But we run an application that uses Oracle Forms 6 Release 6.0.8.13 for Windows (and not the Forms EWT which are Java based forms) - so we use WinRunners Oracle Developer (Oracle Applications) addin.

We also run an application based on Centura/Gupta and we thus use WinRunners Centura addin.

There is no Centura or Oracle Developer addins for QTP.

Hence the desire to continue to run WinRunner.


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Re: Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs [Re: ttguy]
      #602300 - 11/19/09 03:05 PM

The application log should have the detailed exception error, have you checked that? Can you post it here if there is any relevant information?

Cheers~


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Re: Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs [Re: kisvacak]
      #603437 - 11/29/09 09:47 PM

"The application log should have the detailed exception error"

Where does one find this log?


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Re: Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs [Re: kisvacak]
      #604107 - 12/02/09 07:56 PM

Quote:

The application log should have the detailed exception error, have you checked that? Can you post it here if there is any relevant information?

Cheers~




I found the application log.

I am having trouble seeing anything relevant.
The application I had under test was an Oracle forms 6 application that runs as ifrun60.EXE and I see a report for it crashing.
The weird thing is that this appears in the log at a time after the machine was rebooted. I guess this may be normal behaivour for the reporting - it cant report at the time of the crash it reports after it comes back up ??. Or I am just missing something


Code:
 
Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: a9ba7a43-bdd3-11de-bf15-001b784e55d0
"Report Status: 0"""
Information 1/12/2009 12:45 Windows Error Reporting 1001 None "Fault bucket , type 0"
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: ifrun60.EXE
P2: 6.0.8.27
P3: 44201be4
P4: ntdll.dll
P5: 6.1.7600.16385
P6: 4a5bdadb
P7: c0000005
P8: 0005dba9
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
C:\Users\mortonr\AppData\Local\Temp\WER197B.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
C:\Users\mortonr\AppData\Local\Temp\WER75ED.tmp.appcompat.txt
C:\Users\mortonr\AppData\Local\Temp\WER7D7C.tmp.hdmp
C:\Users\mortonr\AppData\Local\Temp\WER803B.tmp.mdmp

These files may be available here:
C:\Users\mortonr\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_ifrun60.EXE_7787e5a18b99546751376d7fdb7564673672290_cab_0b2780d4



More complete log is attatched - event_log1.xls
And some of the dump files (small ones) for the app crash are in AppCrash_ifrun60small.zip


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Re: Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs [Re: ttguy]
      #607801 - 12/30/09 02:29 PM

Hi ttguy,

I am using Winrunner 9.2 to automate a Centura application. Winrunner is not able to recognize some of the Centura controls.

For eg- I have a table/grid in my application, When I have tried to learn/Spy it, WR recognized it as an "object". Then I tried the Virtual Object Wizard to define it as a table. But it didn't work. Since the columns of the table are not even, it prompted me a error message.

Can you please advice, how can I make WR to recognize these kinda centura controls?

Thanks in Advance,
~Emmdee

P.S.

I have the WR: Centura Add-in installed in my system.


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Re: Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs [Re: Mremmdee]
      #607804 - 12/30/09 06:21 PM

Windows 7 is not a supported OS for WR. You are on your own.

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Re: Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs [Re: Peter Ruscoe]
      #650963 - 12/02/10 10:10 AM

Did you ever figure out how to deal with this problem of the text recongition in WR on Windows 7?

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Re: Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs [Re: JLH75]
      #650970 - 12/02/10 11:13 AM

Julia, this thread is almost a year old, and looking at the OP's other activity, it appears that he has moved to QTP. Given my response (also almost a year old), I suggest you do the same.

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Re: Text recognition on Windows 7 with WR 9 - BSDs [Re: JLH75]
      #650997 - 12/02/10 02:35 PM

Quote:

Did you ever figure out how to deal with this problem of the text recongition in WR on Windows 7?




No. We went to QTP. Pain in the arse - massive re-write. And no centura addin for QTP means I have to use optical character recognision and native windows objects. But that is what happens when your AUT does not move with the times I guess.


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