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Cies
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Quality Center vs JIRA
      #526800 - 10/24/08 03:05 AM

Hi

I can't seem to find a suitable forum to post this in. I have posted it here, as I have a requirement for a test management system. I want to provide better visibility to management and project teams of test progress, system quality, test effectiveness and development process validation.

Currently Quality Center exists in the company, but is not properly rolled out yet. I am more than happy to go with this tool (it's here, it's a market leader, my initial playings with it are encouraging) and was about to embark on a programme of work to consolidate how it is used across projects by defining guidelines that will ensure all projects populate the repository with the information I need to generate the above metrics.

BUT another project has just proposed the use of JIRA for all test management actvities. Reading up on the web, it would seem JIRA does support this, but it requires quite a bit of set up and knowhow.

Aside from this, does anyone know whether JIRA would provide the same levels of functionality as QC around test mangement and monitoring?

Obviously JIRA does not support automated testing, which would mean QTP would need to stay for that.

Any thoughts? (If in totally the wrong place, mods please move for me. Many thanks.)

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: Cies]
      #526807 - 10/24/08 03:25 AM

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Aside from this, does anyone know whether JIRA would provide the same levels of functionality as QC around test mangement and monitoring?



The short answer is no.
JIRA is fundamentally an issue tracker so a different package altogether. The enterprise edition lets you devise and implement any kind of workflow, and this versatility may provide some possibilities for test mgt/monitoring. This does involve some work.

We have an implementation of JIRA here (and are very happy with it), but we are looking for something like Testlink for our test management; it does integrate with JIRA. Look at this: Integrate JIRA with a Test Case Management tool for some options.

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: RR1740]
      #527091 - 10/25/08 12:56 PM

I second RR on the fact that Jira is not a Test Management System. For that Quality Center would suit your needs a lot better (and it does integrated on the issue tracking with Jira).

Having said that, if what you want to provide is visibility, Quality Center alone won't do that. One of its Achilles Tendons (and I think it has a its share of those) is on the reports front, and make sure not to go head first into the Quality Center Dashboard for Miracle Cures.

Personally, I'm working now on a report engine that will work on top of the SQL server for the same purpose you suggested bellow. I am doing this at a customer who is using Quality Center for Test Management and Clear Quest for Issue Management (in your case it may be equivalent to JIRA).

Good Luck,

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: jmg]
      #527275 - 10/27/08 09:31 AM

Thanks RR1740. It was that link, amongst others, that led me to believe that integration with QC/implementation of the JIRA test management tool would involve a bit of work, and specialist skills.

jmg - you are spot on, that's what I want QC for. I thought that was the point of it! Can you elaborate on your experiences? I did put a topic on this in the QC forum but got no replies. Thanks!

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: Cies]
      #527337 - 10/27/08 12:37 PM

Cies,

My experience is that QC is a good execution platform. But far from providing the reports you would expect. QC 9.2 has a small breakthrough with the addition of the Excel-Reports module, but don't expect wonders of it, specially regarding the ability to create a good dashboard or reporting platform/site.

Given the above we have been doing a lot of manual work in order to run our reports regularly and update our on-line kitchen monitors (you can read about them on my blog here).

Lately we started exploring a tool that comes with SQLServer 2005 that (in theory) allows you to query the database and generate your own reports, it also has some good presentation options. But we are only started and I don't know if it is true or just another Product Marketing Packet of Empty Promises...

If you have specific questions feel free to ask.

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: Cies]
      #543888 - 01/16/09 07:21 PM

Hi,
I had same problem.
I needed to sync QC and JIRA issues, requiremetns, and reporting.
DB bought go2group JaM. It has bi-directional sync for all fields and attachments and new version does requirement between QC and JIRA.
It took time to modify JIRA to do filter report.
I use Crystal Report plug-in too and some of the JIRA report from the filter search.
I push filter report, Crystal report to wiki server for management. I have interface in the wiki so manager can see all. All is automatic.
go2group did all project. Support was very good for JaM and Crystal Report plug-in.
I try the other QC JIRa integration on JIRa project page. It is free but can not work for me. It is one way. So I do not purseu it.
go2group JaM cost $1,995 USD. So I can get approved in one day. It had 30 day trial. Easy to install.
If you contact go2group tell them you want version JaM 5.0 or later.
One of best thing I do was JaM. You will remeber me and post reply to say thank you Tanaka I think.
Our Germany office use it too on Linux.

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: Cies]
      #543889 - 01/16/09 07:30 PM

Hi,
I had same problem.

I needed to sync QC and JIRA issues, requiremetns, and reporting. DB bought go2group JaM. It has bi-directional sync for all fields and attachments and new version does requirement between QC and JIRA. I can use both QC and JIRA. SW Dev like JIRA. Test want QC. JaM do perfect two way sync, so everyone happy.

Now I don not need to do report in QC and JIRA, I do all report from JIRA now becuase same data.

It took time to modify JIRA to do filter report.
I use Crystal Report plug-in too.

I push filter report, Crystal report to wiki server for management. I have interface in the wiki so manager can see all. All is automatic.

go2group did all this project. Support was EXCELLENT for JaM and Crystal Report plug-in.

I try the other QC JIRa integration on Atlassian JIRA project page. It is free but can not work for me. It is one way. I waste 3 day. So I do not purseu it more. Even if it working it does not do anything like JaM. JaM is so cheap, it does not matter free or not. I only want working and support.

go2group JaM cost $1,995 USD. So I can get approved in one day. It had 30 day trial first. Easy to install. Support before and after purchase was best.

If you contact go2group tell them you want version JaM 5.0 or later, not earlier release.

One of best thing I do was JaM. They also integrate JIRA and Perforce and Subversion. My projects due for 2009 are mostly complete now.

We send test ptoject to ehir Peiking office. Good and cheap also. Have US and Japan and Chinese employee. All are good.

You will remeber me and post reply to say thank you Tanaka I think.

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: Cies]
      #543902 - 01/16/09 09:29 PM

Integrating JIRA and QC is the best of both product.
Keep them in sync is hard.
go2group has JaM plug-in. It keeps them in sync. attachment too. and requirements.
They have best support.
this is $2,000 usd solution to a big problem.
I sleep much better now.
And I do all reporting from JIRA and publish to wiki automated.

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: ttanaka]
      #544373 - 01/20/09 06:32 AM

ttanaka that is excellent information, thank you very much. I shall look into go2group now.

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: Cies]
      #587023 - 08/22/09 10:44 PM

Cies,

That go2group people have new product htat does requirements, testcase, test suite, and agile release dashboard inside JIRA.

My company pilot is not finished and more group want to switch to it.

http://www.synapsert.com/

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Re: Quality Center vs JIRA [Re: RR1740]
      #587823 - 08/27/09 02:43 AM

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We have an implementation of JIRA here (and are very happy with it), but we are looking for something like Testlink for our test management; it does integrate with JIRA. Look at this: Integrate JIRA with a Test Case Management tool for some options.




That's what we've done as well for a major product. Work like a charm. And cheap.

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