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DSquared
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Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303001 - 05/31/05 05:33 AM

In my QA/QC role, I often move back and forth into the business analyst role and deal a lot with requirements. This is appropriate, since QA is not just about testing, but is about quality throughout the SDLC.

We have this forum which deals with requirements and design, but it is kind of generic. We don't have specific forums that deal with tools such as Compuware Reconcile, Rational RequisitePro, Doors; forums on the care and feeding of quality requirements, how to elicit, etc.

My question is: does anyone else see a need for expanded coverage on other aspects of requirements management and the tools that deal with that? If not here, maybe a sister "BAForums" page?

It would fill a need for me. Am I the only one that would benefit from something like this?


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Rebecca1
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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303002 - 06/07/05 07:12 AM

I think business analyst discussions would be beneficial.

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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303003 - 06/07/05 06:44 PM

Darrel,

I agree, and I also sense an agreement on a fine line that divides the BA from the QA analyst. As you experienced, there is a tendency to go back and forth between roles if you get involved in a project, if only because requirements mature as a project matures and often the QA analyst sees the end-product more clearly than the BA starting off with a blank slate. In addition to your points on eliciting requirements and the like, there is the need to define testability and testing strategy, fundamental aspects of project risk analysis that many BA's simply overlook when there is complete separation between BA and QA. So count me in as a supporter of your initiative.


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q-pul
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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303004 - 06/07/05 07:30 PM

I am all for it.

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Rebecca1
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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303005 - 06/15/05 06:16 AM

Sometimes I have been in the offical role of the business analyst. I would write the requirements, review the specs then while developers were developing I would be creating test plans, test cases, often train users on the system as a prototype, lead testing, then document the system.

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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303006 - 07/15/05 06:50 AM

I spend at least a third of my time in a BA role as well, in fact I know few QAs who haven't fulfilled this function at one point or another in their careers. I would love to hear of any expanded forums on the subject.

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DSquared
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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303007 - 07/15/05 09:04 AM

In my current role, I am a pure BA. As soon as development kicks off, I will be turning my hat around and doing the QC stuff.

One advantage of this is that I prescreened the requirements with a QC mindset in place. If it was not a testable requirement, I investigated further until I found the nugget of truth and could actually measure if the requirement was met or not.

This should make my QC job relatively straightforward.


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chibo
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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303008 - 07/19/05 04:05 AM

I think such forum would be very usefull in any case.

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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303009 - 10/04/05 04:50 PM

What would you call this forum? If I was to open one for BAs (what name would be best)?

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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303010 - 10/04/05 06:11 PM

AJ - another web-site? BAFORUMS ??

It makes sense to have one for BAs. If we attract BAs, perhaps over time we could sensitize them to pollutants introduced in their piece of the SDLC.


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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303011 - 10/05/05 05:29 AM

baforums.com is taken (Bay Area Forums)

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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303012 - 10/05/05 05:30 AM

I like Jake's idea. There are NO comparable sites for BAs out there like this forum. If there was one, it would be on my short list of favorites, right under QAForums.

Just as there are a number of tools for QA, there are a number of tools for BA. Rational RequisitePro, DOORS, Compuware's Reconcile come to mind really quickly as requirements management tools.

Quite a few of the other forums here will lend themselves to the BA world. And the different phases of the requirements lifecycle could be there. A forum for requirements elicitation and techniques. A forum for requirements change management. Etc, etc.


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DSquared
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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303013 - 10/05/05 05:33 AM

how about softwareBAForums.com? or baqaforums.com?

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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303014 - 10/05/05 05:55 AM

How about "WhereMostDefectsBegin.com" ??

[Smile]


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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303015 - 10/05/05 07:19 AM

defects 'r us?

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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303016 - 10/05/05 07:38 AM

Suppose you could always call it

"We Do B All"

Quite appropriate in some cases.


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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums?
      #303017 - 11/04/05 05:59 AM

Defects 'B' Gone?

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Re: Expanded Requirements Forums? [Re: DSquared]
      #714422 - 08/13/12 09:50 AM

I think Requirements forums within the SQA forum are a valuable addition. We are currently doing research on defects that are inserted during requirements development and review.

We'd like to hear from folks how we can most readily obtain defect databases that we can analyze as a part of an important development project we have going on.

We are a team of linguistics and computer science students doing research at the University of Southern Maine regarding Requirements and Defects.

Thoughts?


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