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Elfriede Dustin
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The Case for Automated Software Testing
      #426632 - 10/23/07 07:57 AM

Here is a new article:

The Case for Automated Software Testing

Enjoy.

Elfriede
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kawshi
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: Elfriede Dustin]
      #432631 - 11/13/07 01:48 AM

Hi Elfriede Dustin ,

Im also planing to do a research on test automation area for my MSc. since i am a QA Engineer.

So i started read Your white paper as well.

But i dont have a finalized topic. So can you please help me to identify a very good area to a research on Test Automation which gives a solution to a existing problem.

kawshi.


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Elfriede Dustin
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: kawshi]
      #432677 - 11/13/07 04:39 AM

Kawshi,

The future of automated software testing in my mind are selftestable software components, i.e. third party software should not necessarily be required to test software, instead the software should be able to test itself.

For example, take a look how hardware is tested: Automated testing of hardware components in comparison to software testing is much more efficient. Why is that? There are numerous reasons, but automated software testing efficiency needs to be on par with hardware testing. Right now we are not even close. How can we get there?

If you could do research along those lines and present your outcome here, that would be interesting to many.

-- Elfriede

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AnjumLatif
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: Elfriede Dustin]
      #435263 - 11/22/07 03:50 AM

Thx for sharing info ...

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fennek
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: AnjumLatif]
      #444615 - 12/28/07 11:46 PM

So Nice~
Thx~


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KarthikTantri
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: fennek]
      #471566 - 04/01/08 03:00 AM

Hi,

Nice link.....


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sunnisun
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: KarthikTantri]
      #476771 - 04/19/08 07:04 PM

As a newbie,I like this article!

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gbille01
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: sunnisun]
      #482188 - 05/09/08 07:59 AM

Also as a newbie, I found this article very useful, Thanks alot...

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DSquared
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: gbille01]
      #482222 - 05/09/08 10:20 AM

Elfriede,

Forgive me for being critical of an article that is receiving rave reviews from everyone else, but I really do have to ask this question.

Throughout the article, the words "success" and "successful" are used. Examples:

"...and recommend changes that may contribute to improved success in IOT&E along with quicker delivery of improved capability and sustainability to Warfighters."

"Automated Software Testing success is increased, if implemented as part of the system engineering lifecycle."

"With so many benefits why are so few automated testing efforts underway or even successful?"

However, I do not see a definition of "success" or "successful" anywhere in the article.

What is the definition of "success" or "successful"? Speed? Time? Dollars? Passed tests? Combination of all? None of the above?

D^2


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Elfriede Dustin
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: DSquared]
      #482322 - 05/10/08 05:08 AM

Quote:


What is the definition of "success" or "successful"? Speed? Time? Dollars? Passed tests? Combination of all? None of the above?

D^2




It depends on the automated testing effort's goal.
Success is measured based on a set of attainable goals and objectives the test program sets out to be accomplished
as part of the automated software testing effort.

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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: Elfriede Dustin]
      #483044 - 05/14/08 04:27 AM

Elfriede - look for a private mail regarding some feedback on this article.

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Elfriede Dustin
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: DSquared]
      #483047 - 05/14/08 04:39 AM

Quote:

....

If the definition of success is based on "a set of attainable goals and objectives" but is not specified in the article, then the interpretation of sucess is open.





Not necessarily. The interpretation of success depends on the goals of each automation effort and is not specific to only one situation.

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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: Elfriede Dustin]
      #483262 - 05/14/08 01:35 PM

As (yet another) newbie, I too thought the article was very informative, a concise yet comprehensive overview of automated testing.

One question:
I feel compelled to pick up a copy of Automated Software Testing after reading the articles, posts and recommendations, but would like to know how well the book still applies to current tools and approaches.

Many thanks in advance!


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Elfriede Dustin
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: superid]
      #483267 - 05/14/08 02:17 PM

Quote:


One question:
I feel compelled to pick up a copy of Automated Software Testing after reading the articles, posts and recommendations, but would like to know how well the book still applies to current tools and approaches.

Many thanks in advance!




While many more automated testing tools especially open source frameworks and tools are now available, and the
versions of the major vendor provided tools described in the book have incremented (....and vendors have merged)
after almost 10 years in circulation and now in its 11th printing the basic premise of the Automated Testing Lifecycle Methodology (ATLM) described in detail in the book "Automated Software Testing" still applies.
I know of various organizations where the ATLM is still being implemented today. For a high-level summary of the ATLM and to see whether this is something that would be useful to you take a look here: http://www.stickyminds.com/s.asp?F=S2065_ART_2
This might help you make the decision whether the book will be useful to you or not.

Thanks,
Elfriede

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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: DSquared]
      #569400 - 05/15/09 12:38 PM

Quote:

Elfriede - look for a private mail regarding some feedback on this article.




Well, thanks for sharing the fact that you are far too important to share your thoughts in public!


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Brad Johnson
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: Bilbo1967]
      #569418 - 05/15/09 03:27 PM

Elfriede, This is a wonderful article and has been referenced often as a foundational piece.

The vision of self-testing-software is truly a realizable long-term goal (and I have seen encouraging progress from test & technology vendors and leading-edge development shops I've worked with).

I would suggest an update to this article, however, with the proven success of some on-demand Testing-as-a-Service (TaaS) based options that have emerged since its original publishing.

TaaS models that enable test teams access to test tools and environments on a pay-as-you-go model specifically address the top 3 barriers to adoption of test automation highlighted in this article:

* Time: On-demand services mean full-scale test environments and tools are ready whenever the dev/test teams are. This is awesome for Agile teams, and time-to-test-execution can be up to 90& faster - particularly in areas like performance regression testing.

* Cost: I estimate the cost of a 100,000 user load test with 50+ load servers and the traditional software cost at nearly $700k-$800k. Costs of these services via some TaaS solutions are single-digit percentages of this - not even considering the test coding costs.

* Trained Personnel: Testing service platforms often employ the the best automation engineers available and collaboratively leverage the testing expertise of your staff as a blended team that maximizes the skills of both.


Brad

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Edited by Brad Johnson (05/15/09 03:33 PM)


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Deeps289
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: Brad Johnson]
      #572808 - 06/04/09 12:57 AM

Hi All,

Since, I am new to field please tell me what does a White Paper mean?

Thank you,
Deepali


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Joe Strazzere
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: Deeps289]
      #572857 - 06/04/09 05:19 AM

Quote:

Since, I am new to field please tell me what does a White Paper mean?




http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+white+paper&aq=0&oq=&aqi=g1

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Deeps289
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Re: The Case for Automated Software Testing [Re: Joe Strazzere]
      #573048 - 06/04/09 10:20 PM

Hi,

Thank you for providing me the link...It helped me a lot.

So,A white paper is an authoritative report or guide that often addresses problems and how to solve them. White papers are used to educate readers and help people make decisions. They are used in politics and business. They can also be a government report outlining policy.

--Deepali


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