idosius
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Hi,
My name is Ido and I work at Testuff, an on-demand test management tool. It integrates with many existing bug trackers and includes video recording so that you will never miss any bug again.
I would like to invite all you ace QAers to give Testuff a test ride and let me know what you think. It's currently in free beta stage and there's no need to install a server. Download it and find out more info here: http://www.testuff.com/download
Have a great day,
Ido -- http://www.testuff.com
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Corey_G
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"Cuts debugging time by 50%"
I love claims like that. good thing only 37% of stats are true.
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JakeBrake
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What is the max you pay for beta testers? My rate for beta testing is currently discounted to US$215.99 per hour.
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tonybruce
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Outsource it to me, I'll do it for $180!
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idosius
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Actually, those who give us some true help, by which I mean find bugs and give us substantive feedback, will get a free one year license for Testuff.
We haven't decided on our exact prices yet, but estimating the time you'll spend testing Testuff, you'll be getting more than your salary's worth
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JakeBrake
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I would prefer the $$ over the 1-year license.
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Joe Strazzere
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Ido,
I downloaded and installed the client and played a bit. Are you looking for public feedback here?
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idosius
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Hey Joe,
It would be best if you could email me directly to removed email address , or use the feedback form on our site http://www.testuff.com/feedback
If you wish to give public feedback that's OK too, it's up to you 
10x,
Ido
Edited by blueinatl (07/07/08 03:16 PM)
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Joe Strazzere
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Ok, I did send some information back via the feedback page, but since you publicly solicited Beta users here, I might as well provide a few initial thoughts here as well.
1) I was rather surprised to see that this wasn't a browser-based application. Why the need for client installation for what is essentially a hosted application? Seems odd.
2) I know in your blog you mention it, but the icons are terrible for a business-oriented application. Far too cutesy. I wouldn't want to demo this to my VP for budget approval.
3) Similarly, the fonts were too large for me.
4) No tooltips on the icons left me guessing at a few of them.
5) Requiring the use of blank lines and magic character sequences (like "=>") when defining test cases/steps in a GUI-based system seems rather odd.
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rtehve
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idosius
What size organisations are you targeting here ?
I can tell you now (if you don't already know) big corporates would generally not be interested in storing what could be commercially sensitive info off-site !
Is it possible to roll out a repository at a customers site ?
Other than video recording bugs, your product doesn't really do anything different to HP's Quality Centre.
What is the ball park licence cost for say a 5 user scenario ?
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Tony Davis
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Quote:
Other than video recording bugs, your product doesn't really do anything different to HP's Quality Centre.
QC has that functionality as well. There is a Recorder tool you can install and it is attached to the defect when you record what you do.
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rtehve
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Tony Davis
Now I know, seems only applicable when the defect is visual in nature anyway. I have in the pass used my phone camera to document visual bugs, most of the work I do is SIT, I don't see the need for such a tool.
I guess you would have to access the above for price and usability (HP QC does suck in that area..... not that cheap either).
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Joe Strazzere
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Quote:
What is the ball park licence cost for say a 5 user scenario ?
From http://www.testuff.com/support#2 :
"How much will it cost?
Testuff is free during beta trials. It will always remain free and fully functional for a single user and will cost around $300 per year for a company of up to 5 testers."
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sureshj
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Hello ido,
Your positioning of the product is very confusing. your tag line is "on-demand test case management" and you describe the product to be "full test management suite". I havent looked at the product itself, but i would say that the product description is quite confusing that it may put off some one trying it out. Also in the past i have used screen capture tools to do these kind of things and they are free for any number of users.
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Joe Strazzere
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Ido,
Your Defects page says "If you don't use any bug trackering [sic] tool, you can get the defects by email (Settings->Email notification)."
I've tried that, and nothing ever arrived via email.
I've also tried clicking the "Send by email" link at the bottom of Defect Details. In the Send defect dialog, I get "The defect no longer exists."
Is the "send via email" feature actually implemented in this Beta?
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Eric_P
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Does asking for testing of a test management product in a tester forum constitute trolling?
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Peter Ruscoe
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We discussed this with the Admin offline. His view was that it was not a problem since the questioner is offering compensation (a year free) in return for the testing.
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Eric_P
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I wasn't questioning the post being here, I just saw humor in what it was, where it was. Sorry, should have kept it to myself.
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Peter Ruscoe
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OK. I can see where you are going. (Pretty subtle, though).
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idosius
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Below is the response I sent Joe over email. It's rather long, but I thought some of you might be interested in reading it, especially since he also published his questions in the forum:
Thanks for your feedback, I must say you asked some interesting questions Please allow me to answer.
1. It is unusual indeed that we provide a client installation. We do so because we believe that today it's very hard, close to impossible, for web UIs to provide the silky smooth experience that desktop clients can provide. We've tested various technologies and they simply didn't have that smooth look and feel that the Testuff client has. Since we'd like to provide the best user experience to our customers, that's what we decided to go for. I've seen and tried out some web based test managements, and the ones I've seen just suck. But don't take my word for it. Try some yourself, then go back to Testuff, and ask yourself which one provies better interaction.
If there is some other reason why you'd like to have a Testuff web GUI, for instance if you'd like to use Testuff on several OSs, please let me know so that we could discuss a specific solution for your needs.
2. Icons are a matter of taste of course. Nonetheless, another idea from our philosophy is to make testing fun. If people had as fun testing as they do, say, playing Guitar Hero III, they would do more testing, more in depth, and enjoy it a whole lot more. I also rejected our cutesy icons the first time I saw them, but I have grown to love them. Let everyone else use borring and gray corporate icons, we'd like something with color and life that people could enjoy.
3. Could you be more specific about the tooltips? Tell me which parts confused you, and we could easily add tooltips for them.
4. About the huge fonts, that kind of goes with item 2.
5. Using blank lines is an odd way to separate steps. But when you're writing a test, or even many tests in a row, it makes the test writing very fluid rather than needing to use the mouse to click some icon to add steps or to have no separation between steps at all. After a few minutes of getting used to it, it works great. Don't you agree?
6. Same thing with the => for expected results. As you're writing a test, instead of stopping typing on the keyboard to use the mouse and click some icon to put in an expected result, you can write tests really fast with =>. In fact, we would like to provide wiki syntax for the test editor so that you could change font styles, add links, pics, and more. Some people really don't like wiki syntax and it does take some getting used to. However, after that process happens, and it's a rather short process, you can format text in a breeze without interrupting the flow of your writing.
Let me know if you have any other questions or comments. Thanks again for the ones you wrote!
Best Regards,
Ido -- www.testuff.com
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