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LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread
      #642645 - 09/17/10 05:25 PM

Always wanted to start a "Miscellaenous Thread" aka chit chat thread for the LR forum to discuss misc things exclusively about LR..

This thread is those posts that are not classified as "Issues" Or "Problems" that require resolutions. but merely your observations, remarks comments etc.. So let me see if this works out..

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To start with.. do you know that LoadRunner 11 is officially released - login to the HP support site and download the upgrade version if you want to give it a shot.

will post my comments after I take a dekko at the new version...

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #642667 - 09/18/10 09:22 AM

hmm, I must have missed something. I downloaded the 1.5GB zip file three times on two different machines and I still get an "Invalid Zip File" message when trying to extract...

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #642683 - 09/19/10 12:27 AM

I am not sure if the below things come into issues/probs/Bugs/errors/...:



1-LR 9.52 and Mozilla Browser 3.0 recording is a problem most of the times, not sure what is going wrong.
- Especially when it involves HTTPS Applications

2-LR>9.5 ver uses .EVE files on LG
When running tests, LR saves the results on LG as .eve files after the test these files will be transfered to LRR folder on controller as part of Collating process.

But for some reasons .eve files gets corrupted on the LGs, you cant extract the results with transaction names:(.

With LR<9.1 we dont have this prob.


3-We have instaled LR9.52 on some PC Host controllers machines and after some weeks of working fine seeing issues in Analysis which is causing each controller machine re-build one by one.

- Error while opening analysis is : "Incorrect writing to a fileD:\...LRAnalysis80.ini, COuldnot find part of the path ..D:\...LRAnalysis80.ini.

we checked the file is existing fine and replacing the file doesnt help.

4-VuGen Browser replay wont worksome times, need to re-build the software.

5-web-citrix, web events gets recorded but not Citrix
Web-Oracle, same problem oracle events wont get recorded.

6-Citrix - After Proper Citrix Agent ver installation on Citrix server, we wont be able to identify the text on citrix windows while recording in vugen.

Hope the next ver dont have this probs

Edited by Krishna18in (09/19/10 12:30 AM)


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Krishna18in]
      #642698 - 09/19/10 06:02 PM

Discussion between me and a Recruiter

Me - "I guess there arent enough good LoadRunner guys in this area that they picked me.."

Recruiter (who is located elsewhere) - "There arent enough good LoadRunner guys ANYWHERE"



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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #642742 - 09/20/10 02:25 AM

excellent!!!

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #642767 - 09/20/10 05:27 AM

Quote:



Recruiter (who is located elsewhere) - "There arent enough good LoadRunner guys ANYWHERE"






If only all recruiters were this honest with their clients...


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: James Pulley]
      #642771 - 09/20/10 05:35 AM

Quote:


If only all recruiters were this honest with their clients...





People like me who call themselves as PT engineers - future will be in dilemma


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #642796 - 09/20/10 08:06 AM

Quote:

hmm, I must have missed something. I downloaded the 1.5GB zip file three times on two different machines and I still get an "Invalid Zip File" message when trying to extract...



I am also having the same issue. I downloaded the first time directly and when I saw the error about the invalid zip file, I used HP download manager to download it again. But same error again.

I use 7-zip by default and it would not even open. However, if I used the windows explorer to open the zip file, it shows the iso image, but won't extract or burn it to a disc.

Let me know if you have an update.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Scimitar]
      #642808 - 09/20/10 09:58 AM

Schmitar, Same thing. I can see the ISO but the extraction does not work - either with Windows Native Zip or through WinRAR. No joy whatsoever..

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #642954 - 09/21/10 06:30 AM

saw this on LinkedIn in the LoadRunner Forum

Quote:

Looking for a Roadrunner Tester in Bellevue, WA. You can reach me at 800.678.8644 for more details.




to which James replied

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Are you referring to ......Celluloid quality assessment for RoadRunner cartoons?




LOL

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #642983 - 09/21/10 09:36 AM

LOL, If you don't pay attention, auto-correct will always trip you up.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Scimitar]
      #642985 - 09/21/10 09:46 AM

The funny thing was that the Recruiter didnt catch on the joke, he seriously replied with a job description.. So my guess is he doesnt have a clue what LoadRunner means..

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #643009 - 09/21/10 12:25 PM

this does not surprise me at all

recruitment consultants generally don't know that much about what they're recruiting - it's all database searches for buzzwords

even when they're supposed to be specialised


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #643025 - 09/21/10 04:22 PM

Well, despite the labor shortage, pay rates for LR (and IT in general) have been flat for the past 10 years in the USA while they're skyrocking in India.

Good for them, but after 10 years of no forward movement in salaries and no end in sight, I'm contemplating a career change!

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: DanCorey]
      #643074 - 09/22/10 04:19 AM

Dan,

I understand your feeling well, as once a year I typically look at leaving the profession altogether: Many of my peers have already done so. What has kept me here for the past five years is usually I have an unprompted & unusually timed email that shows up that speaks to how I have helped a person or organization I never knew about because of my contributions here and in other sites.

The challenges we have in our industry are severe and well known, even though most clients choose to ignore their impact in search of driving every last penny out of IT costs. The phrase, "Penny-wise and Dollar foolish" comes to mind to cover this behavior. I imagine many of these people would shy away from a "free" dog or a "free" car, knowing what is coming, but with unskilled outsourced contractors they just don't get it. Go figure.

That having been said, I was in a meeting yesterday with a major software vendor who is finally willing to fight hard against this trend and support an industry forum for the collection and dissemination of a performance engineering common body of knowledge. Once one vendor falls, others generally follow. I consider this spectacularly good news. I cannot reveal the vendor at this point, but I would expect that an announcement would show up in this forum when the common body of knowledge site goes live. I consider this forthcoming site a complement to SQAForums and not a replacement.

Who's up for some (Plymouth Hemi) RoadRunner Testing!?

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: James Pulley]
      #643113 - 09/22/10 07:27 AM

James,

I believe it is "a penny wise, a pound foolish", which is a better alliteration.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: ptrussell_nc]
      #643146 - 09/22/10 10:01 AM

Russell, that would be true.....if I was an Englishman. None of that pounds sterling stuff for me!



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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: James Pulley]
      #643165 - 09/22/10 05:03 PM

Talking about rates

From the LoadRunner Recruiter hall of shame..

Quote:

LOADRUNNER /Networking/latency testing---position at Memphis TN (2Positions)
Duration: 1 year
Rate : negotiable ( around 35/hr---more for seniors)
should be able to join ASAP.





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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #643236 - 09/23/10 03:02 AM

pay peanuts get monkeys

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #643238 - 09/23/10 03:11 AM

"here's chi chi, he's a junior LR tester that we hire out at $35/hour, oh and you'll also need his mentor, Dave, did I say mentor I meant handler, he's $800/day, have you seen the price of bananas recently? peanut anyone?"

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #643271 - 09/23/10 06:13 AM

@James,

If the industry itself doesn't have a common body of knowledge and you are in the process of bringing one, the current trend will apply for all the orgs and not just to outsourcing providers. Could you please elaborate more on this? Just curious.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Selvakr]
      #643275 - 09/23/10 06:39 AM

Since August of 2009 our organization has been working with vendors and individuals to establish a vendor and (as much as is possible) tool neutral site for a performance engineering common body of knowledge. The current state of the economy has not been kind to those efforts, with individuals, companies and many vendors not in a position to fund or contribute.

On Tuesday as a part of our normal and ordinary vendor meetings we met with a vendor partner who had just changed their management structure and focus as a company. Many of their management had come from the IT security industry and they observed the same challenges in the performance engineering space as had been in the IT security industry which lead to the formation of the ISSC CISSP credential, with the first step in that process establishing a common body of knowledge as well as common methods, process and procedures. Steps after that are well known, such as publishing the CBOK in book and electronic forms, building a composite credential made up of other established credentials, then moving to a standardsized development, continuing education and credentialling set. Both this vendor and our organization were moving in the same direction and happened to meet over a comment in our discussions on Tuesday.

Consider this to following along the path of organizations like the AICPA (for CPA accreditation), the CISSP (for IT Security professionals) or the PMI/PMP (for project managers). It will take several years but the bar is now being built to raise the industry with. Once established organizations will no longer simply be able to throw a tool over the wall without training and professional development of the person and claim some level of expertise...just like a self trained bookkeeper cannot represent themselves as possessing CPA level skills. This should (over time) eliminate the bad actors and raise the level of visibility for this highly skilled, economically differentiated discipline in the eyes of our clients.

Yes, there is an economic self-interest here in seeing the visibility and respect for the entire profession raised. That economic self-interest is two fold, both in reducing the financial exposure of end clients related to application scalability as well as a recognition of the value the standardized and qualified industry professional brings to the table in terms of increased compensation for effective providers (versus the amateurs who have few usable skills but have a label which states 'Purformunz Enjinear' today and the customer cannot tell the difference between the two.)

Overall, I am excited. Moreso than I have been in a while considering the challenging state of the majority of resources in the performance testing/performance engineering space and the lack of an economic incentive on the part of the majority of the providers to provide a person with effective skills to their clients.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: James Pulley]
      #643278 - 09/23/10 07:29 AM

A CBoK on the lines of PMP would be nice. But then there is this skeptical part of me that says soon we will have crash courses designed from an examination point of view. There are real PMPs, and others who went through training just like this one in NC

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #643288 - 09/23/10 08:23 AM

I much prefer the CISSP model which mandates a period of intership before you are eligible for the exam followed by Continuing education to maintain your credential. This is what I will press for when it is time for a full credential discussion.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #643328 - 09/23/10 01:46 PM

Regarding downloading LR 11, you need BOTH the .zip and the .z01 file. Make sure they're in the same directory, then use WinZip to extract the .zip. Apparently the archive is multi-part, with the .z01 the second part.

I couldn't get 7-zip, PowerArchiver or Windows zip folders to work, had to download a demo copy of WinZip.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: gbondy]
      #643338 - 09/23/10 08:11 PM

thanks gbondy. I sort of guessed that .z01 was needed (With no idea on how to . but when I tried to download the site was erroring out. I will try again.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #643434 - 09/24/10 08:54 AM

@Chid - I've just done the same as you- downloaded it 3 times before sussing out it was multi-part. Jeez. I guess it's obvious when you look, but I've done a lot of downloading, of large files, and have never seen a multi-part zip like that.
They definitely need to add something in the FAQ

Next thing I'm curious about is why it's so damn large anyway.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JoeW]
      #643691 - 09/28/10 05:50 AM Attachment (902 downloads)

HP has changed its path for ASE Certification for LoadRunner...

Earlier it was two exams (proctored).. Now they have cut it down to just one and if i read it correctly, its a prometric delivered exam.. (Dilution of standards?)

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ASE - HP Load Testing Using Loadrunner v9
* = required
Requirements for this certification: 1 Core exam
Acquire In (days after registration): 0 days
This Certification can be acquired by completing modules from any one of the 1 available paths. To see the modules within each path, select a path below.
Path


Core requirement*
Complete 1 of 1 available courses and certifications.

Exam HP0-M94 Advanced Loadrunner 9.5 Software
ID: HP0-M94
Offered As: Exam/Test (On Demand),Web Based (Self-Paced)


Title Exam HP0-M94 Advanced Loadrunner 9.5 Software
Version
Description This exam is delivered through a Prometric test center.

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ADDED Later:
Found the document - it is a proctored exam and not a prometric test. But the information on one paper being enough to get your ASE is correct..

Document attached to the post.

Edited by Chid (09/28/10 07:52 AM)


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #643863 - 09/29/10 08:20 AM

I saw that a while back... good news, but remember that as they just released LR11 - it'll be out of date in 6 months... I'm waiting for the ASE LR11 exams

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #643868 - 09/29/10 09:15 AM

Jim,

They released it only in July, So I guess it will be there for another year and a half atleast before the Ver 11 comes up.

http://merc-training.cce.hp.com/main/get_file.cfm?code=7744&file=VIVIT_Certification



I agree definitely good news as it cuts down our cost (one instead of two). But I still wish I didnt have to travel all the way from PHL to NY to give the test.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #644309 - 10/04/10 05:02 AM

You can refer the following HP article for the steps how to download and install loadrunner 11.0

Title: How to download and Extract LoadRunner version 11 (LR 11)
Document ID: KM1001146

steps
Download the file "Software_HP_LoadRunner_11.00_T7177_15013.zip"
while you are downloading Software_HP_LoadRunner_11.00_T7177_15013.z01, save the file by putting double quotes around the file e.g. "Software_HP_LoadRunner_11.00_T7177_15013.z01"
Extract the file Software_HP_LoadRunner_11.00_T7177_15013.zip to ur folder

For more details, you can refer the HP Knowledge article

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: staytuned]
      #644365 - 10/04/10 11:44 AM

Bharath and others, thanks for all the tips. I did manage to download the z01 file earlier and use WinRar to do the installation. It automatically prompts for the second file

On another note from LinkedIn

Quote:

"QTP / LoadRunner Tester needed ASAP in Raleigh, NC / Full-Time + Benefits ($50 - 60k) / U.S. Citizen
For immediate consideration call or email xxxx"




Are rates really this low in NC?


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #644369 - 10/04/10 11:50 AM

Do you know of a good Peformance testing book that I can buy?
Thanks in advance.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #644370 - 10/04/10 11:51 AM

I did comment on that posting. One comment I put in and then pulled out was that the person is way under market. I am hoping that someone else will call out the recruiter on this. Until we call out these types of events the recruiters and HR professionals will not change. Last month I began a campaign to call out recruiters who post absolutely useless posts looking for performance resources in an effort to force receruiters to ask better questions of their clients and post more robust requirements for skills.

The person that the recruiter wants is the one who is working today (as a measurement of effective skills). Instead they will get someone with both tools on their resume who knows marginally more than the interviewer.....or they are setting the stage for an H or L sponsorship by complaining "I can't find an US citizen to do this work." We have that happen a lot in RTP (Research Triangle Park, located between Raleigh, Durham and Chapel Hill).


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: James Pulley]
      #644390 - 10/04/10 03:28 PM

Quote:

or they are setting the stage for an H or L sponsorship by complaining "I can't find an US citizen to do this work."




Its too low for even for a H/L visa holder good in LR. 50-60 is an H Salary for someone in a general QA field with two to three years of exp but certainly the recruiter has a long wait if he expects a LR guy and a US Citizen at that ...that had me really wondering.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: James Pulley]
      #644504 - 10/05/10 09:44 AM

I am a junior LR tester and hence would like to request someone to recommend any books of LR that might help me. I do not wish to ask my questions in the forum because they might be too basic.
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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: soniaroy]
      #644517 - 10/05/10 01:02 PM

Sonia,

I am not really sure - While there may be books on performance testing out there - they tend to be overkill for a beginner - more likely to put one off the field for ever. I went the more practical route - learning the tool, working on a couple of projects as a junior resource, picking up the skills along the way.

My suggestion is to go through the LR tutorial, learn VuGen. become a good scripter first. Work as a junior tester in a couple of projects (where a senior is undertaking the project and you are providing perhaps scripting etc under guidance) and everything will fall into place down the lane.

But before all that - make sure you understand basic web web applications. preferably if you had the experience of designing, hosting your own websites, it will hold you in good stead. Good grasp on HTML is absolutely essential.



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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #644730 - 10/06/10 09:14 PM

This book is tool agnostic, but for Performance Testing concepts / methodology I can recommend "The Art of Application Performance Testing" by Ian Molyneaux (Published by O'Reilly).

This is pretty much the only book I've found that makes complete sense and pretty much summarises the approach to performance testing that I have learned.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Perez]
      #646610 - 10/25/10 10:00 AM

Any feedback from those who are using LoadRunner 11.

Not sure there is anything that would require I change my 9.5.


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New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Colombian_TE]
      #646836 - 10/26/10 06:10 PM

Came across a few new functions in LR 11 that require further study

web_convert_from_formatted - Converts a string created with one or more data format extensions back to the source format.

web_convert_to_formatted - Formats data using one or more data format extensions.

web_reg_save_param_xpath - Finds data in an HTML buffer that has been formatted as XML and saves the data to a parameter.

lr_free_parameter - Deletes a dynamic parameter at run-time, freeing its buffer. I dont remember reading this earlier

-Thats it for now. I understand how the last two work - the first two I have no idea and will probably dig in over the coming days...


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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Chid]
      #647090 - 10/28/10 10:37 AM

HatTip@ Barry Perez.

Three more patches to be installed on top of LR11 to get Ajax TruClient

http://support.openview.hp.com/downloadA...odRelease=11.00
Title: Critical Update
Document ID: KM999242
Updated: 2010-Sep-21
LR_03014: OTHER Additional critical functionality for TruClient Protocol

http://support.openview.hp.com/downloadA...odRelease=11.00
Title: Vugen SA Critical Update
Document ID: KM999238
Updated: 2010-Sep-21
LRVUG_00002: OTHER
Additional critical functionality for TruClient Protocol


http://support.openview.hp.com/downloadA...odRelease=11.00
Title: Load Generator Critical Update
Document ID: KM999240
Updated: 2010-Sep-21
LRLG_00002:Additional critical functionality for TruClient Protocol

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #647185 - 10/29/10 08:02 AM

Sort of stumbled into this blogpost by accident

http://www.scivisum.co.uk/blog/web-load-testing-with-loadrunner-running-out-of-road/

the author quotes their interaction with a client who gave up LoadRunner in favour of <name your custom built favorite load testing tool> and goes on to state why the client's load test team failed with LR and why they shifted to their services.

Reading through the article - the novice factor of the performance testing team using loadrunner shines through. if any the author should have highlighted that the perf test team falls short of its claimed expertise and its nothing to do with the tool.

some examples from the post which got me riled up

"Something in the new code meant that that approach didnt work on the old LoadRunner scripts: it was going to take some time to update the scripts: and after losing 4 hours trying to achieve that and failing, the testers fell back to an old script that did work on the new code base but that one did not do the random elements."

The team couldnt figure out what this "Something" was that broke the scripts. Who hired this team?

"why the client wanted to give us the load testing work was so that the bulk of their own web testers would no longer need to know about LoadRunning scripts. They wanted their team to focus their time on other aspects of the in-house testing, where knowledge of the business logic is really vital."

you dont need 'a bulk of thier web testers' to know the loadrunner code.. you need just ONE.


"maintaining a library of pre-built scripts is a considerable effort, and trying to do a quick system-wide load test of complex multiple page dynamic users journeys with lots of random choices (e.g. choose a pair of shoes from the 10 listed that matched your search) becomes difficult "


difficult??? what are they hiring? monkeys? this is the basic foundation on how to build realistic scripts..

Clients should stop blaming the product for their poor management and hiring practices.. Okay I am really riled up

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #647488 - 11/02/10 06:05 AM

Anyone got a quick opinion on upgrade from LR 9.52 to 11.0? Anything to be concerned about?

My main controller just had hardware failure that necessitates new hardware build, and I am thinking I may as well upgrade while I am at it. Just don't want to head down the path and realize I made a mistake.

I am planning to load Windows 2003 on the new server so I have option to roll back to 9.52, but I guess I am looking for some general feel if 11.0 is stable.

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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Chid]
      #647851 - 11/04/10 12:25 PM

I'm just wondering if anybody was able to get TruClient operational through loadgenerator?
I can get it running in firefox but not in vugen without firefox or loadgenerator.

RoadRunner joke was really funny. But the way I did told one recruiter to bug off when he offered me a job for 25 bucks an hour for a senior performance position and blaming economy conditions. Lucky for me I knew the company that they were looking to hire qa so I called my friend who works as hiring manager in there and he told me that agency was asking 250 per hour
What kind of BS is that? Agency gets 250 and you get 25. Screw them :


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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Softice13]
      #647863 - 11/04/10 03:33 PM

Softice,

Just checking, have you applied this patch on your loadgenerator?


http://support.openview.hp.com/downloadA...odRelease=11.00
Title: Load Generator Critical Update
Document ID: KM999240
Updated: 2010-Sep-21
LRLG_00002:Additional critical functionality for TruClient Protocol

reg rates - I think 250/Hr is unrealistic for them to demand. no one agency is idiotic enough to price themselves out of the market IMO..

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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Chid]
      #647866 - 11/04/10 03:59 PM

I did applied it. I also found out that scripts created during initial install don't work after patch was applied.
I know about the rate but company thought that they were hiring some real pro for that position where agency was just BSing their way around. Also in bay area agencies charging that much is not new and very common especially when it comes to pharm companies.


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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Softice13]
      #647940 - 11/05/10 12:53 PM

That is the rate HP was going to charge a company in Oklahoma City 2 years ago. I charged them 50 (cut them a break because I knew what they needed and it wasn't that difficult) and they were very happy.

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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: wildcat1975]
      #648203 - 11/09/10 09:13 AM

From the LR email list

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Just wanted to let you know we've published a tips and tricks document to help you make the most of the new Ajax TruClient protocol available in LoadRunner v11.

Ajax TruClient is a new advanced protocol for modern JavaScript-based applications, including Ajax.
The protocol emulates user activity within a Web browser. Scripts are developed interactively in Mozilla Firefox.

The tips and tricks document is available at:

http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve..._TipsTricks.pdf

Please send your feedback directly to me or to lt_cust_feedback@hp.com

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Scimitar]
      #648969 - 11/16/10 10:46 AM

Quote:

LOL, If you don't pay attention, auto-correct will always trip you up.

Scimitar




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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #650899 - 12/02/10 05:17 AM

I have tried and failed so far to download LR11, due to client site constraints. However, I though I saw a 2-part zip of of 1.5GB each.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: pridge]
      #651399 - 12/06/10 01:17 PM

Just to make sure I am reading things correctly - the "new and improved (and totally awesome!)" functionality is FireFox only?

I can name 5-6 "IE Only" shops off the top of my head that will never run FireFox (barring some major shakeup in the browser world), is HP really cutting off a good chunk of their user base from the newer technologies?

What am I missing here?

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: kjackey]
      #651408 - 12/06/10 03:01 PM

apparently Micro$oft refused permission to develop the feature for IE - so they went with firefox.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #652777 - 12/15/10 10:24 PM

For scalability HP needs the ability to run the browser in a 'headless' state. IE does not support that mode... FireFox does.

Although the scalability in FireFox appears to be quite low according to the available info/docs.. it is at least a solution for some apps.


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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Chid]
      #652778 - 12/15/10 10:26 PM

Quote:

HatTip@ Barry Perez.

Three more patches to be installed on top of LR11 to get Ajax TruClient

http://support.openview.hp.com/downloadA...odRelease=11.00
Title: Critical Update
Document ID: KM999242
Updated: 2010-Sep-21
LR_03014: OTHER Additional critical functionality for TruClient Protocol

http://support.openview.hp.com/downloadA...odRelease=11.00
Title: Vugen SA Critical Update
Document ID: KM999238
Updated: 2010-Sep-21
LRVUG_00002: OTHER
Additional critical functionality for TruClient Protocol


http://support.openview.hp.com/downloadA...odRelease=11.00
Title: Load Generator Critical Update
Document ID: KM999240
Updated: 2010-Sep-21
LRLG_00002:Additional critical functionality for TruClient Protocol




Not sure about these 3 patches. After installing the first one with no issue the other 2 fail saying it is not the right version... maybe only for Performance Center..?


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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: swales]
      #652878 - 12/16/10 10:05 AM

Agree, had that experience also, it appears that for non-performacne center users only 1 patch may be needed.

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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: kjackey]
      #653233 - 12/20/10 01:12 PM

whats the deal with tdforums.tdadmins.com ?

I do remember registering there not once but twice - both with work id - but never got approved nor any emails..

(Just Curious - not really keen on joining a board that makes joining such a painful process).


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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Chid]
      #653515 - 12/22/10 06:08 AM

Okay Critical LR11 patches released
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http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LR_03017
Patch 1 Critical Update
LR_03017: OTHER
ALM side-by-side feature and Protocols Updates- Ajax
TruClient ,Web (HTTP/HTML) protocol - Data Format Extension
,Citrix updates, RDP updates, Flex updates.

http://h20230.www2.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LRVUG_00003
LRVUG_00003: OTHER


http://h20230.www2.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LRLG_00003
Load Generator Patch1 Critical Update


http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LR_03040
LR_03040: OTHER
Citrix client 10.0 and later support and Citrix driver
support for Windows 2008.

http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LR_03039
LR_03039: OTHER
Citrix client 10.0 and later support and Citrix driver
support for Windows 2008.


http://h20230.www2.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LRANLSYS_00002
LRANLSYS_00002: OTHER


Unix OS related Patches
http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LR_03036 (Linux)
http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LR_03038 (solaris)
http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/FID/DOCUMENTUM_LR_03037 (HP-UX)


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Re: New Functions in LR 11 [Re: Chid]
      #653556 - 12/22/10 11:27 AM

I plan to submit a ticket with HP to cover the complete installation order for a fresh Loadrunner installation that includes the new patches.

Before I do so, has anyone already asked HP this question?

EDIT: Here is the correct patch installation order from HP:

About your question, please follow the below order:
First you have to install (on both the Vugen and the Controller machines):
http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve...llowReturn=true

Then:
http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve...llowReturn=true

Also, the following patches have to be installed in the Load Generator machine(s):
First:
http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve...llowReturn=true

Then:
http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve...llowReturn=true

Before install the patch I suggest you make a backup. Let me know if this help.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #653748 - 12/23/10 11:17 PM

I am a trainee on Load runner and i see a sudden rise in my % disk time and %processor times for around a min in a 40 min test. could anyone tell me what the reasons for this could be.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: rockyrishab]
      #655632 - 01/11/11 09:47 AM

It's a bottleneck. That's what you're here to find!

Now you take the next step...make a hypothesis about what kind of system behaviors would cause a resource over-utilization on 2 correlated resources?

Could it be a processor spikes because cache flushes...then to rebuild the cache, it stores temporary files to disk? why does it all happen at the same time?

OR - you have a second set of vusers that start 40 minutes into the test, they are automating a different business process which takes up more memory. That causes swapping for that set of memory (thus a disk spike and additional CPU to do the swap)?

Now you take the next step - investigate!

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #659920 - 02/09/11 11:10 PM

Can anyone help me out?

I need to know, whether Loadrunner can record RTE Protocol - VT220 Terminal based emulator application?


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Naveen_Verma]
      #659922 - 02/09/11 11:12 PM

If yes then please explain me a bit.

I need to performance Test an appliaction, and also let me know, what all things needed to be taken care of.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Naveen_Verma]
      #660949 - 02/17/11 07:11 AM

hi Naveen

yes LR can record the RTE protocol

please read the sections of the manual relating to the RTE protocol and then ask specific questions within the main forum

please note this is not a training forum, it is intended as a discussion forum for trained and experienced LR consultants


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #661036 - 02/17/11 05:36 PM

Posted on HP forums by Mark (Tomlinson)

"AJAX TruClient Virtual User is running at the UI-level and requires more memory and CPU resources per each virtual user.


Keep this simple equation in your mind: 1 hour of scripting = n dollars.

How many hours do you spend working on low-level script correlations? How many times do you have to completely throw away an existing low-level script and start over again (and repeat the scripting correlations)? How many hours are spent trying to explain a web_data_submit() function to a business analyst? Take all of those hours and multiply by n dollars. For example if your time is worth $100 per hour to the company, and you spend 80 hours working on a script...that's $8000 dollars.

If you switch to use Ajax TruClient - most of those low-level scripting complications are eliminated and you save all those hours of time. And, with Ajax TruClient you don't have to completely throw-out the old scripts with each new version of the application. That's even more time savings.

So, then you can spend that $8000 savings on more memory and CPU for load generators.

And with the time savings, generally - you can get to test execution faster, test analysis and results. You spend more time focusing on the application and performance issues...and LESS time messing around with scripts.


It's that simple."

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Someone is dusting off the "Just Record and Replay" Sales talk manual again
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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #662419 - 03/01/11 09:03 AM

@ ""Just Record and Replay" Sales talk"
What about retraining costs, getting everybody up to speed on Javascript now instead of C!

truClient looks a lot like Selenium, and looks like it scales just as badly as well as it runs headless browser instances.

Anyone know if truClient works with Flex?

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #664848 - 03/17/11 11:00 PM

Chid's right... Once you go TruClient... you won't want to go back. Don't take this to mean it is perfect... or easy. Those of us that have been around a decade or so in the LR world will have a learning curve... mainly because we are set in our ways. We are used to C.. now we have to learn JavaScript. We are used to seeing a script.... now things are more GUI oriented.

I think TruClient will only get better with time. I have already seen Patch 2 increase the capabilities of TruClient. The main problem right now is documentation and examples. I started another thread to try and help.. but I am hoping HP steps up to the plate with more examples.

Yes TruClient is hardware hungry. But hardware is 'cheap' nowadays as compared to a few years ago. CPU and Memory are key. Quad or Six Core processors should be your goal, with 4gb of Ram... probably less than a grand for that level of machine.

You will easily pay for the hardware with time savings in scripting. You are now looking at hours instead of weeks to script most scenarios.

If you hate correlation.. good... TruClient doesn't use it or need it. You hate the pseudo runtime browser that never displays the 'real' web page... good... TruClient doesn't use it.. it uses a 'REAL' browser to show you what's happening.

Like it or not... TruClient is the future. The vendors just can't keep up using the old protocols with the rapidly changing frameworks.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: swales]
      #665766 - 03/25/11 12:12 AM

HI i have a doubt...?

I have three dependent links in which i have to distribute my 100 VUsers with different percentage

Example: All the 100 users will hit link 1 and now link 2 will be enabled, now only 60 users will click link 2,now link 3 will be enabled to all 60 users and only 25 users will click link 3.

All this i need to do in a single script by distributing my users in percentage.

Please help.....!!!!!!!!

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: kally]
      #667219 - 04/07/11 04:23 AM

Make action1 with link1, action2 with L2, action 3 with L3
set each action part properties in RUN LOGIC of RTS.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Krishna18in]
      #667404 - 04/08/11 04:05 AM

Any idea...LR 9.5 supports Windows 7 with IE 8 or not ?

I am trying to record a web flow with vugen for the first time and IE is getting crashed... tried even with Firefox ...its the same.

I guess its compatibility issue vugen9.5 & win 7 with IE 8.0 ...


would IE 7 would work with vugen on win 7?can any one confirm it or share their views on this.

Note: I have admin rights on the recording PC

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Krishna18in]
      #669251 - 04/25/11 09:22 AM

krishna, I think you need LR11

you can download it from HP


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #670193 - 05/03/11 08:30 AM

Re: tru client and the "hardware is cheap" mantra

That does not pass my smell test. Purchase price is not the only cost for hardware. Most corporations have a chargeback in place, so each desktop your company puts on the network results in a montly or yearly charge to the IT infrastructure bucket.

Factor in space, cooling, updates, etc, and all you are doing is shifting your costs. But that's ok! HP sells hardware right? Conflict of interest?

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: steve_perf]
      #670409 - 05/04/11 11:13 AM

Quote:

Re: tru client and the "hardware is cheap" mantra

That does not pass my smell test. Purchase price is not the only cost for hardware. Most corporations have a chargeback in place, so each desktop your company puts on the network results in a montly or yearly charge to the IT infrastructure bucket.

Factor in space, cooling, updates, etc, and all you are doing is shifting your costs. But that's ok! HP sells hardware right? Conflict of interest?




Nothing is impossible for the guy who supervises it!

As we have discussed in one of James' threads, HP sometimes is in the "cake and eat it" business. I don't think this is an attempt by HP to "sell more hardware". TruClient is a potentially useful, "C coder"-less method of creating sciripts. HP can now convincingly say "you don't need a professional C developer to create WORKING / VALID scripts."

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: ptrussell_nc]
      #670415 - 05/04/11 12:20 PM

Sounds like it's more "mittens on the masses" when you'd rather have surgical gloves in creating scripts.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: SteveO44]
      #671455 - 05/15/11 08:08 AM

Let me share with you my own thinking from when I was the HP LoadRunner Product Manager - as we were developing LoadRunner v11.0 with the AJAX TruClient vuser.

We all have recognized for years that the real objective of performance testing is *not* writing scripts (no matter what vuser type or language involved). The objective is to execute a test and analyze the results of the test - and to facilitate the resolution to performance bottlenecks. Therefore, our perspective was that script writing and script development is simply a prerequisite to conducting the test. It's a tax that every customer must pay.

Well, the objective for AJAX TruClient is to reduce that tax both in terms of time and also money. Why?

- because Agile/XP processes squeeze the time required to develop scripts
- because many more customers might afford the scripting tax if it *didn't* require painful correlations using old ANSI-C skills
- because paying the high-tax on a small load test (100-200 vusers) breaks the ROI calculation
- because paying the transport-level taxes still may result in an inadequate measurement of end-user-perceived response time

Also, we did not have any deterministic philosophy involved with releasing AJAX TruClient. Meaning, we did not intend to send a directive message to the masses about 'the one and only right way' or the 'wrong way' to choose your virtual user type. We thought about adding more choices and more options to your toolbox of virtual user technology. You have all the good 'ole virtual users that LR has always had (most of 'em)...and now you *ADD* new technologies like AJAX TruClient.

There's also no manipulative agenda in the HP LoadRunner R&D teams that I worked with. The team is dedicated to innovating and improving the product - so, please stop trying to read between the lines on some hidden message: 'thou shall abandon ANSI-C coding', or 'HP is trying to do X, Y or Z to trick us'...because that's not how they think.

Cheers,

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #673482 - 06/02/11 02:36 AM

any one please help me !

what is the Load runner 11:0 advantages and disadvantages


Please do the need full ASAP......


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: dcmohan123]
      #673483 - 06/02/11 02:37 AM

other wise what is the loadrunner 11.0 versions Risks and benefits ?

Please do the need full ASAP......

Edited by dcmohan123 (06/02/11 02:39 AM)


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: dcmohan123]
      #675822 - 06/21/11 12:22 PM

LR11 Patch 3 is released

Desc:
The LoadRunner 11.00 Patch 03 release is a cumulative
release and contains the content from the Patch 01 and
Patch 02 releases.

Whats New:

Mobile Protocols
Two new solutions that expand LoadRunner's capability to
include testing load on activity from both native and
browser-based mobile applications:
-Mobile App (HTTP/HTML). A protocol that provides the
flexibility to develop scripts using mobile devices or
mobile emulators.
-Mobile TruClient. Mobile TruClient enables you to use
LoadRunner's Ajax TruClient technology to record user
activity on browser-based mobile applications.

Internet Explorer 9.0
As part of its Web protocols, LoadRunner now supports
recording on Internet Explorer version 9.0. for Windows 7
Enterprise, 32 bit and Windows Server 2008, 32 bit.
Internet Explorer 9.0 support contains the same
functionality as previous versions of Internet Explorer
for the Web protocols.

Granite DS (Data Services)
LoadRunner has added support for testing applications
running on GraniteDS. GraniteDS is an open-source
comprehensive development and integration solution for
building Flex/JavaEE RIA applications.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #675823 - 06/21/11 12:26 PM

Just in case we got lost in the LR11 Patch-mania (for Handy Reference - This should be updated to show just Patch 3)

http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/KM1088847

After a clean installation of LoadRunner 11 there are 3 important patches available so far. The patches are mandatory and should be installed by all LoadRunner customers. All patches are accumulative, that is, the newest one contains all of the previous ones. However due to issues with the uninstallation any of the first 2 (Critical or Patch 1) should be present before installing Patch 2.

1. LoadRunner Critical Patch - LR_03014: KM999242
2. LoadRunner Patch 1 - LR_03017: KM1035229
3. LoadRunner Patch 2 - LR_03044: KM1088984

Patches for Load Generator systems (Windows OS):

1. Load Generator Critical Patch - LRLG_00002: KM999240
2. Load Generator Patch 1 - LRLG_00003: KM1035228
3. Load Generator Patch 2 - LRLG_00005: KM1088990

Patches for Load Generator systems (Other OS)

* Linux (RedHat)
1. Load Generator Patch 1 Linux - LR_03036: KM1036177
2. Load Generator Patch 2 Linux - LR_03057: KM1088983

* HP-UX
1. Load Generator Patch 1 HP-UX - LR_03037: KM1036186
2. Load Generator Patch 2 HP-UX - LR_03058: KM1088982

* Solaris
1. Load Generator Patch 1 Solaris - LR_03038: KM1036183
2. Load Generator Patch 2 Solaris - LR_03059: KM1088981

Patches for VuGen 11 StandAlone

1. VuGen SA Critical Patch - LRVUG_00002: KM999238
2. VuGen SA Patch 1 - LRVUG_00003: KM1035227
3. VuGen SA Patch 2 - LRVUG_00011: KM1088992

Patches for Analysis 11 StandAlone

1. Analysis 11 SA Patch 1 - LRANLSYS_00002: KM1035232
2. Analysis 11 SA Patch 2 - LRANLSYS_00006: KM1088991

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #675825 - 06/21/11 12:38 PM

In addition to above wht did each previous Patch add?

Critical Update :Additional critical functionality for TruClient Protocol

Patch 1 Critical Update : ALM side-by-side feature and Protocols Updates- Ajax
TruClient ,Web (HTTP/HTML) protocol - Data Format Extension
,Citrix updates, RDP updates, Flex updates.

Patch 2
The LoadRunner 11.00 Patch 02 release is a cumulative
release and contains the content from the Patch 01 release.

Ajax TruClient:

Object Identification:

1. Replay assistance- During replay, if TruClient cannot
locate an object in the script, it provides you with a
variety of options to locate the correct object in the
application, and enables your script to continue to
replay.

2. XPath- Object Identification now provides multiple XPath
suggestions.

3. TruClient includes two new functions in the JavaScript
area of a step:

1. evalXPath(XPath)- Returns an array of the objects
defined by the XPath in the argument.

2. random(array)- Returns a random item from the array
that is provided as its argument.

Steps:

1. Else condition- You can now add an Else condition to an
If section in a TruClient script.

2. Verify step- A new Verify step action was added for the
browser object. Possible properties to verify are Title
and Location.

3. Wait for Property step- A new Wait for Property step was
added. Wait for Property waits the amount of time
specified in the Step Timeout for the specified property
to match the specified value. The list of properties you
can verify depends on the role of the object.

4. Property verification- The list of properties you can
verify for each object depends on the roles of the
object and is no longer limited to visible text, all
text, and inner html.

5. New properties and functions- TruClient now includes
more functions and properties for use in your steps. For
details, see the sections on TruClient Functions and
TruClient Properties in the HP Virtual User Generator
User Guide.

6. Replace with parameter- You can now right-click a value
in a step and select Replace with parameter to
automatically replace a value with a parameter.

Snapshots:

1. Object icon- When you record a step on a button or
similar object in TruClient, the description in the step
may now include an image of the object.

2. Snapshots on errors- Snapshots on errors is now
supported for TruClient scripts in Controller.

3. Compare snapshots- You can now compare recording,
interactive replay, and load mode replay snapshots.

General:

1. Web page graphs- You can now view Web page component
breakdown graphs in Analysis for TruClient Vusers. Due
to the use of third-party components (for example,
Mozilla's Necko), Ajax TruClient measurements are less
detailed, and may be less accurate than in other
protocols. Some graphs (for example, Time to First
Buffer Breakdown) and some measurements (for example, SSL
Handshake, Client/Error Time) are not available.

2. Browser settings- Browser settings are now accessible in
the Ajax TruClient General Settings dialog box, in the
Browser Settings tab.

3. Bookmarks- You can now save bookmarks in the Ajax
TruClient General Settings dialog box.

4. Transactions- The Transaction Editor dialog box now
contains indications if your transaction is missing a
start or end step.

Citrix:

1. Functions- The functions Sync on text and Get text (text
trapping functions) for 32-bit applications are now
supported on Windows 2008 R2.

2. XenApp 6- Citrix XenApp 6 is now supported.

3. Update to Citrix correlation rule- This update should be
applied manually in order to preserve possible changes
made by the user. To apply the new rule:

1. Go to Tools > Recording Options >
HTTP Properties > Correlation node.

2. Click Import.

3. In the Import Correlation Settings from a File
dialog box, find the following: ..\LoadRunner >
dat > webrulesdefaultsettings >
CitrixSession_TokenRule.cor.

4. Click Open. The new correlation rule is added for
Citrix.

Flex:

1. AMF parsing- LoadRunner now includes improved AMF
externalizable object parsing (Action Messaging Format).
This makes the process of serializing using an external
Java serializer simpler and more robust.

2.RTMP

1. Messaging support- RTMP now supports enhanced record
and replay of messaging and has been verified for
Adobe LiveCycle Data Services ES2 Version 3.1.

2. Streaming support- RTMP now supports enhanced record
and replay of streaming.

When you record a Flex stream, by default, LoadRunner
now generates a single flex_rtmp_receive_stream step
in place of many flex_rtmp_receive and flex_rtmp_send
steps. The flex_rtmp_receive_stream step makes your
script more readable (eliminating tens or hundreds of
lines) and makes the replay more reliable.

Note: The new flex_rtmp_receive_stream step is
generated when the Generate flex_rtmp_receive_stream
step option is selected in the Flex:RTMP pane of the
Recording Options dialog box. Although this step
makes the script more reliable, it does not replay
certain actions you may perform while recording your
script, such as pause and seek. It also does not
replay the automatic requests that the client performs
when Dynamic Stream is in use.

If it is important to replay these actions, you can
clear the Generate flex_rtmp_receive_stream step
option in the Flex:RTMP pane of the Recording Options
dialog box, which causes LoadRunner to generate the
steps for all of the raw streaming data.

However, to ensure proper replay, you must manually
modify the generated script as described in Manually
Adjusting Recorded Flex RTMP Steps.

The above functionality has been verified for
Flash Media Server versions 3.5 and 4.0.

3. Externalizable objects- LoadRunner supports
externalizable objects over RTMP.

4. User Data Points- LoadRunner now generates a number of
new data points that provide more useful information
for analysis. Note that some of the less commonly
used Flex RTMP data points from previous versions were
removed.

Web:

1. Correlations rules- Correlations now use a new
web_reg_save_param_ex API which enables VuGen to find
more and more precise correlations.

2. Correlations Studio- The performance of correlation
studio was improved (scan for correlations).

3. Correlations- Step snapshots now include more information
about tasks that were initiated by the primary request.
Correlation rules now search this new more complete
snapshot.

4. web_reg_save_param_ex- web_reg_save_param_ex no longer
supports regular expressions for left and right
boundaries. To define the dynamic data with regular
expressions, use the new function,
web_reg_save_param_regexp.

General:

LoadRunner support on Visual Studio 2010- The LoadRunner
Visual Studio add-in now supports Visual Studio 2010.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #676138 - 06/23/11 12:23 PM

Hrm.... I logged into my Passport account and didn't see any Patch 3.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #676511 - 06/27/11 09:20 PM

Internet Explorer8 is not supporting to load runner8.0 version. how to solve the my problem?

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: pavan_perfect]
      #676587 - 06/28/11 06:22 AM

Upgrade to LR 11. (or LR 9.52 with a patch downloaded from HP Support)

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Chid]
      #679591 - 07/20/11 07:01 PM

Hi,

Where can I find the new Visual Studio Add-in?

I'd like to migrate some LR9.5 + VS2005 to LR11 + VS2010.

Thanks, Ricardo


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: ricardo75]
      #681929 - 08/11/11 04:00 PM

Quote:

1. Correlations rules- Correlations now use a new
web_reg_save_param_ex API which enables VuGen to find
more and more precise correlations.




What a pain in my rear lately.

The "RequestUrl" portion of this new feature when it combs through my correlation rules are causing all kinds of Memory Exception errors when I try to run the script.

If I comment out the "RequestUrl=*......." piece, the script runs fine.



I also like to use a template to preload a lot of our custom login functions into vuser_init and all of our custom .h paths into the globals.h section.

When I record a script into the Action section, it wipes out the globals.h section. I've got an open ticket for that one... we'll see how it goes. I already got the first response I expected "Upgrade to patch 3" so we're scheduled to do that in ~2 weeks.

What a fun week!

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2. HTTP
3. No
4. Concurrent
5. n/a
6. New
7. 40k Web, 2k SOA, 1k DB
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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: SteveO44]
      #686408 - 09/23/11 08:13 AM

Just an update on the template issue. Upgraded to Patch 3, still saw the same behavior. Finally thought I'd get escalated. Oh no! Patch 4 just came out and THAT will magically solve my problems.

Long story short(er) I asked the support person, since he claimed he was unable to replicate my issue in his environment, to send ME a WebEx recording of his steps since I was obviously doing something wrong on my end.

Finally escalated. The issue magically appeared in his environment!

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: SteveO44]
      #687613 - 10/05/11 08:05 AM

Great. Another "by design" feature.

Wait... you're telling me that "by design" when I record a script, it not only overwrites the Action section (which I would expect,) but also the globals.h section? On what planet would anyone think that's "by design???"

Oh, but the Init section remains intact?

And your solution for me is to copy my globals.h section INTO the Init section so when it gets overwritten, I can just copy it back??

Booooo. Hisssss.

I might as well use notepad and call it my new VuGen "template."



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4. Concurrent
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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: SteveO44]
      #688434 - 10/13/11 08:08 AM

Hi Experts,

Can some one respond to thread "SAP-HTTP Status-Code=500 (Internal Server Error)"

Thanks you
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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: DJangoNa]
      #688982 - 10/18/11 02:38 PM

Think you know C? Check it out. A fun, quick and "easy" test.

I'll confess that I took more time than I probably should have and I did miss one of the questions (number 3).

http://blogs.oracle.com/ksplice/entry/the_ksplice_pointer_challenge

If you report your results, be honest! (or just don't say anything :-)

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: DanCorey]
      #690903 - 11/11/11 10:40 AM

Hey Guys, I wonder is you wouldn't mind putting your 2 cents in on the following: My company is Ixia (www.ixiacom.com) and we have had some interesting and productive discussions with the HP/LoadRunner product team. These discussions are about adding functionality (through a technology partnership with HP) that will produce a *network-only* performance metric for the existing LoadRunner UI.

There have been discussions, on this board and elsewhere, regarding the "blind spot" that is the network when performing tests with remote VU's. specifically, we (both parties) believe there is value in discriminating just how much of a reported response time metric is attributed to the network, and not the loaded or unloaded AUT.

Let me know if you feel you would use this type of functionality. HP and IXIA, while we see value in the functionality, need some confirmation from the user community. Your feedback would be valued to the extreme!

Thank you,

Warren Stewart
Ixia

Edited by IxWarren (11/11/11 10:41 AM)


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: IxWarren]
      #691178 - 11/15/11 01:11 PM

Having a brain fart on where I can set the configuration for max VUs allowed on a LoadGen. I'm not talking about where you can assign the max # in a PC project, but on the actual LG itself.

Any help greatly appreciated.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: SteveO44]
      #694526 - 12/29/11 11:09 AM

Question: Why do vetran members of this forum jump all over new comers? That's kind of distrubing trend I've seen on numerious threads I've read.

I understand your point of view totally. However, just request them to to post in a certain format should suffice no?

Thoughts/Comments

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02. Web(HTTP/HTML) URL method
03. N/A
04. N/A
05. LoadRunner 11.1
06. New
07. Subscription - 5000 Web and Multimedia
08. Current
09. Win Vista Enterprise SP2/Ubuntu Linux 10.04 LTS/Solaris
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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: codewarrior0000007]
      #694530 - 12/29/11 12:21 PM

The LoadRunner forum is something of a one-off in SQAForums. It is intended solely for trained and experienced LR users. As a result, it's not that the newcomers to SQAF get jumped on (although there are a lot of them that ARE new), but rather that the experienced members here do not want to waste time trying to replace the training that someone using LR should have gone through before touching the tool.

There are other forums elsewhere that have no such restriction, such as the Yahoo LoadRunner group.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Peter Ruscoe]
      #694532 - 12/29/11 12:26 PM

Gotcha.

I agree but seems harsh to tell you the truth. Part the reason I mostly read and post less. Even though I've been registered with this since 2005.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: IxWarren]
      #697043 - 01/30/12 11:00 AM

Quote:

Hey Guys, I wonder is you wouldn't mind putting your 2 cents in on the following: My company is Ixia (www.ixiacom.com) and we have had some interesting and productive discussions with the HP/LoadRunner product team. These discussions are about adding functionality (through a technology partnership with HP) that will produce a *network-only* performance metric for the existing LoadRunner UI.

There have been discussions, on this board and elsewhere, regarding the "blind spot" that is the network when performing tests with remote VU's. specifically, we (both parties) believe there is value in discriminating just how much of a reported response time metric is attributed to the network, and not the loaded or unloaded AUT.

Let me know if you feel you would use this type of functionality. HP and IXIA, while we see value in the functionality, need some confirmation from the user community. Your feedback would be valued to the extreme!

Thank you,

Warren Stewart
Ixia




Would welcome this with both hands. One of the problems while testing using remote LGs is the delta added by network. while tools like Shunra can create the same conditions locally and provide good analysis to tell you where exactly the time was spent, a plug in like this will help a lot. Most of the clients want to see how exactly the application will behave in the production network or the internal network.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: Selvakr]
      #709671 - 06/12/12 05:13 AM

Has anyone else watched these videos covering Loadrunner 11.50? Looks like they finally after all these years actually updated the editor and the entire UI.

http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/HP-LoadRunn...ls/ba-p/5687253

But I'm scared it will be even more buggy now considering the number of changes they have made.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: LGH]
      #709749 - 06/13/12 12:38 AM

Hi,

where i can find Load Generator for Unix? I searched on hp site but didn't find anything.


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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: fatfrum]
      #710003 - 06/15/12 09:37 AM

Should be in the disk image... Consult manual for directions if i remember rightly... Note not all protocols are supported iirc

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: JimHowell1970]
      #710210 - 06/19/12 07:33 AM

Get ready for LR 11.5

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4. Concurrent
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6. New
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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: SteveO44]
      #710763 - 06/26/12 11:02 AM

I seriously crack up when I see people post scripts online to internet forums that contain usernames and passwords in PLAIN TEXT for the whole world to see.

Unbelievable.

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Re: LoadRunner Chit Chat Thread [Re: LGH]
      #712846 - 07/23/12 03:24 PM

Quote:

Has anyone else watched these videos covering Loadrunner 11.50? Looks like they finally after all these years actually updated the editor and the entire UI.

http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/HP-LoadRunn...ls/ba-p/5687253

But I'm scared it will be even more buggy now considering the number of changes they have made.




Indeed quite a lot of changes. I have not seen the videos as such but we got ours upgraded to 11.5 recently. Got to say, it'll take time getting used to the new look and feel.

They have broken a few existing features, some better known features are hard to find and quite a lot of new additions. I for one am getting confused with the new UI, having worked with the old one for 6+ years now.

Just my 2 cents.

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