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cmeisenzahl
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Droughts, unmasked ...
      #715115 - 08/23/12 08:59 AM

Submitted without comment. Okay, one comment, I pray this turns out to be bogus. ;-)



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Joe Strazzere
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: cmeisenzahl]
      #715117 - 08/23/12 09:20 AM

http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/daylight.asp

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: Joe Strazzere]
      #715118 - 08/23/12 09:21 AM

http://www.swollenpickles.com/2008/10/15/daylight-savings-responsible-for-drought-says-albury-man/

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: Joe Strazzere]
      #715120 - 08/23/12 09:44 AM

In the same vein, we could launch a rocket to the sun but only at night so it wouldn't burn up!

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rtehve
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: Rich W.]
      #715127 - 08/23/12 12:56 PM

http://anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress.com/tag/tim-flannery/

FIVE years ago, Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery predicted that the nations dams would never be full again and major Australian cities would need desalination plants to cater for our water needs.

now

Yesterday, in his latest report, he said climate change cannot be ruled out as a factor in recent flooding rains, which led to some of those dams overflowing.

The apparent contradiction accompanies predictions that heatwaves, made worse by concrete, asphalt and buildings, will cause deaths and violence in western Sydney.

Don't get me wrong, I think there is something to the theory, but there seems to be too much snake oil science going on.

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Edited by rtehve (08/23/12 12:57 PM)


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IanFraser
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: cmeisenzahl]
      #715135 - 08/23/12 02:02 PM

Daylight saving...

In Queensland when we trialed it people complained because it faded their curtains...

A referendum was held daylight saving was dumped. It honestly isn't any good here in Queensland anyway. It is useful for those damp and dark southern states.

Besides I got sick of having to buy new curtains...

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rtehve
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: IanFraser]
      #715162 - 08/24/12 01:20 AM

IanFraser

I thought the line was that when you go to Queensland you don't go back 1hr, you go back 50 years

:-)

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cybersurf
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: rtehve]
      #715194 - 08/24/12 08:02 AM

We live in an age of flying motorcycles and 3D printers and you think Queensland has things backwards? (Rhetorical question unless you fixed your flying motorcycle by printing off a new piece before going into work this morning).

Maybe there is some truth to it. As testers we all know perspective plays a big part in how the system works.

People do breath differently when they are awake vs. asleep. If people are exhaling more carbon dioxide on a state-wide scale this could have a slight impact over generations.

Maybe he raises a valid point?

I know when I worked support we used to change one thing at a time to see if it fixed the issue.

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: cybersurf]
      #715195 - 08/24/12 08:35 AM

Quote:

People do breath differently when they are awake vs. asleep. If people are exhaling more carbon dioxide on a state-wide scale this could have a slight impact over generations.

Maybe he raises a valid point?



I breathe differently during Daylight Saving Time than Standard Time.

During the former I breathe in and out.
During the latter I breathe out and in.



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cybersurf
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: Joe Strazzere]
      #715218 - 08/24/12 02:52 PM

I find your circular logic is very circular.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/co2-persons-d_691.html

Not using snake oil science here. Or am I?

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: cybersurf]
      #715235 - 08/25/12 05:06 AM

No surprise that people emit different levels of CO2 when sleeping versus when awake. I don't see any snake oil there.

And if there were a study proving that people sleep less during Daylight Saving Time than Standard Time, then it's conceivable that there would be a very slight impact over generations that might matter, and perhaps the amount of physical work being performed in the world these days relative to the amount of physical work being done before Daylight Saving Time was "invented" matters, and perhaps the gasses emitted by cars and industrial processes in the modern world isn't a factor, and maybe these factors are localized in the writer's area where there are droughts rather than other parts of the world where there aren't droughts...

Lots of ifs and maybes there... if not snake oil.

Maybe the writer is simply confused, and maybe having the government get rid of Daylight Saving Time wouldn't cure those droughts.

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: Joe Strazzere]
      #715244 - 08/25/12 03:13 PM

Joe Strazzere

Many in rural areas ignore such anyway as live stock are very regular and don't get the memo about daylight saving.

With more flexible modern work practices I think daylight saving is less significant these days.

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Joe Strazzere
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: rtehve]
      #715246 - 08/25/12 06:10 PM

Quote:

Many in rural areas ignore such anyway as live stock are very regular and don't get the memo about daylight saving.



LOL!

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IanFraser
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: rtehve]
      #715294 - 08/26/12 01:55 PM

Quote:

IanFraser

I thought the line was that when you go to Queensland you don't go back 1hr, you go back 50 years

:-)




That may be a fair comment. Except its the Southern States that turn back their clocks not Qld.

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: IanFraser]
      #715353 - 08/27/12 11:09 AM

Reminds me of this classic:


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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: NoUse4aName]
      #715381 - 08/28/12 12:23 AM

NoUse4aName

Those damn Somalians ! ....... We now know how to fix global warming.

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michaeljf
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: rtehve]
      #715481 - 08/29/12 05:34 AM

Maybe the pirates are breathing in...

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: michaeljf]
      #715506 - 08/29/12 10:41 AM

But what about Bovine Methane? I thought that was the cause of global warming. Since the cows would get milked later, there would be even more methane while they wait.

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: Rich W.]
      #715528 - 08/29/12 04:35 PM

Quote:

Since the cows would get milked later, there would be even more methane while they wait.



Milked later than what?

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cmeisenzahl
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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: Joe Strazzere]
      #715590 - 08/30/12 05:04 AM

Just to clarify, for the mods, I most definitely didn't intend this thread to be a debate on global warming. Just enjoying the letter by itself. ;-)

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: cmeisenzahl]
      #715723 - 09/02/12 01:59 PM

cmeisenzahl

Regardless of the truth or not in global warming, having many snake oil scientists and debates about cow farts is a good source of humour.

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Re: Droughts, unmasked ... [Re: cmeisenzahl]
      #717622 - 10/07/12 03:22 PM

We are back in Stupid Time in Australia.

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