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    Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

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    Re: Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

    Well considering we've been able to blame everything from gum disease to restless leg syndrome on global warming, this isn't much of a stretch. ;-)

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    Re: Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

    Why searching for answers if the cause is already known?

    Bobby Henderson uncovered the real reason a few years ago:
    It is the fault of the Royal Navy.

    There is a clear relation between the shrinking number of Pirates on the high seas and global warming.

    Best regards,

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    PS: The complete evidence (including graphs) can be found in the "Gospel of the flying spaghetti monster".

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    Re: Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

    For more info about what Roland refers to : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastafarianism

    I have discovered this stuff one year ago.

    Funny that Global Warning can lead to Flying Spaghetti Monster.

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    Re: Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

    Flying spaghetti in Minnesota where it is "globally warmed" to minus 10 deg F at the moment, just might be hazardous and equip one with an unwanted set of quills. Flatulence will not easily thaw the spears.

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    Hey Jim, no one said it was easy being a Pastafarian. Or is that Flatufarian?
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    Re: Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

    There was a little hiccup lately over an opinion piece one of the Kennedys did about 18 months ago where he said that global warming has all but ensured the DC metropolitan area will never again see snow or cold weather.

    Woops!

    They then counter that it's the very global warming phenomena that caused this recent deluge of snow on our nation's capital.

    I just don't get it. Due to global warming it'll never happen again. But when it DOES, it's because of global warming.

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    Re: Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

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    There was a little hiccup lately over an opinion piece one of the Kennedys did about 18 months ago where he said that global warming has all but ensured the DC metropolitan area will never again see snow or cold weather.


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    I believe this is the article in question?
    http://www.robertfkennedyjr.com/arti...les_times.html

    I'm not sure he actually says that the DC area will never see snow or cold weather again.

    Still, there are always foolish arguments using irrelevant data points on both sides of the Global Warning debate.
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    Re: Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

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    ... of the Global Warning debate

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    Freudian slip, Joe? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Re: Another Global Warming Update - The Cause!

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    No doubt man has an impact on the world, to assume we fully understand it is pure arrogance and stupidity. The simple answer is we don't ! The issue is to big and broad and the science/data is plainly just not there to draw such conclusions.

    Unfortunately for the ideological tree huggers, their agenda seems to be going down the toilet by letting politics and hysteria be the new trendy science, ignoring the old school lets get the science write before we draw conclusions. What we see today is many tinpot pseudo scientists out there, it seems the main qualification is knowing how to use google to find a lot of misinformation.

    In the example you gave, the ignorance of basic statistics is breath taking. Lets ignore AGW and just talk generically about a Trend. A trend is a general push factor or flow in a direction. A trend can have variation and quite broad variation. A trend does not necessarily mean each data set reflects the trend, in complex systems you have anomalies that buck the trend. In a well understood system the anomalies are explainable. In complex system say like the earth's long term climatic system we simply can't explain many anomalies at all and often when we can we can't do it with a great deal of accuracy. To be bold faced and suggest DC will never see snow again (based on historical trends) is incredibly arrogant and ignorant.

    To further splice out what is human derived change and what is natural makes the whole argument very marginal, given we have not yet got our heads around the natural cycles the planet goes through we have people believing we can calculate accurately the human effect. The notion is laughable to me.

    My personal view is that AGW has neither been proven or dis-proven, but what has been proven is many scientists and politicians have an agenda.
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