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    What r the checkpoints in QA career ?

    Hi all,
    I wanted to know the checkpoints in the career of a QA/tester?
    how does progress can be measured in terms of QA?
    Following are the things which i feel generally decides the growth :-
    1)Salary you r getting
    2)Role you r playing in the team
    3)The responsibility u r getting

    So what are the guages of these factors ?
    say what is the scale for measuring the role ,the salary and the responsibility a 1 yr,2yr,3 yr etc etc...exp QA/tester should be playing in an organization?
    I know there will be no definite scale to measure but all u experts can suggest ur scale,ur measures ..so it will be very helpful to measure and guide the career in QA
    thanks in advance
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    Re: What r the checkpoints in QA career ?

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by suphhire:
    Following are the things which i feel generally decides the growth :-
    1)Salary you r getting
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    Totally depends on the organization you work for. I've known a couple of organizations where the salaries for test engineers is a percentage of what they pay for developers. To me, that indicates the value they assign to quality in general. Read another thread: http://www.qaforums.com/Forum15/HTML/002156.html

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>2)Role you r playing in the team <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Some folks abhor management roles and love being a hands-on kind of person. Vice-versa is true as well for yet others.
    I'd say this is a function of what *you* are good at and what *you* would like to do. Sometimes the company sees things the same you do - which is great for you - or they may not.

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>3)The responsibility u r getting<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    A function of what you can handle.


    Broadly in the places I've seen, it goes like this:

    0-2 years - juniormost grunt

    2-4 years - grunt in charge of junior grunts

    4-5 years - expert in something. If not expert, then still a grunt making the salaries other grunts are making.

    5+ - Acquires halo of a nerd or the biz-speak of a manager.
    Suresh Nageswaran, CQA, CSTE
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    Pune, India.
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    Re: What r the checkpoints in QA career ?

    This is very much off the top of my head - I have clearer definitions but not with me at the moment.

    I liked punekar's answer for humour, but disagree with the fundamental assertion that it is number of years that is a defining factor - I don't believe this, it is skills that define your career path, not how long you have been doing a job.

    So, here would be my list for career path:

    Junior tester - Can read test cases and execute them; can raise good fault reports
    Tester - Can design tests using basic test techniques; is capable of active participation in documentation reviews; reviews fellow tester's tests; capable of automating tests
    Senior tester - Can design tests using advanced test techniques; is capable of active participation in technical reviews; can produce test plans; may specialise in one or more area (e.g. Performance testing); mentors more junior testers; able to communicate with customers; implements test improvements
    Test Lead - Can produce test strategies; capable of man-management; influences test improvement; understands and produces metrics;
    Test Manager - As Test Lead but on bigger project or more projects

    Obviously, there are grey lines between some of these roles, but it gives the general idea.

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    Re: What r the checkpoints in QA career ?

    Peter, that's not what I meant. I said I'd observed it. Like I mentioned earlier, the responsibilities assigned are a function of individual capability. But surely, you cannot argue that maturity does not bear any relation to experience ?

    -Suresh
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    Re: What r the checkpoints in QA career ?

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by punekar:
    Peter, that's not what I meant. I said I'd observed it. Like I mentioned earlier, the responsibilities assigned are a function of individual capability.
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    Yes, agreed, it is a function of individual capability.
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>
    But surely, you cannot argue that maturity does not bear any relation to experience ?
    -Suresh
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    Maturity clearly does, years of service does not. I have given senior roles to testers who have not done a lot of years and, conversely, there are some testers with a lot of years that I would never give a senior role to. When determining a person for a role, years of doing testing is not a very important factor.


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    Re: What r the checkpoints in QA career ?

    Years of experience.

    I have seen some folks that 10 years experience was one year 10 times (mostly management types).

    Everytime I change positions I discover new experiences. I have been in the business 30+ years and believe my career peak about half way in. Since making my way to the top of the ladder, I am now on the way down. I guess the law of physics that says everything that goes up must come down (old law that may not apply any more).

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